diff --git a/Nasal/canvas/gui.nas b/Nasal/canvas/gui.nas
index 5a128a186..a71381156 100644
--- a/Nasal/canvas/gui.nas
+++ b/Nasal/canvas/gui.nas
@@ -31,11 +31,17 @@ loadGUIFile("Config.nas");
 loadGUIFile("Style.nas");
 loadGUIFile("Widget.nas");
 loadGUIFile("styles/DefaultStyle.nas");
+
+# widgets
 loadWidget("Button");
 loadWidget("CheckBox");
 loadWidget("Label");
 loadWidget("LineEdit");
 loadWidget("ScrollArea");
+loadWidget("Rule");
+loadWidget("Slider");
+
+# standard dialogs
 loadDialog("InputDialog");
 loadDialog("MessageBox");
 
diff --git a/Nasal/canvas/gui/styles/DefaultStyle.nas b/Nasal/canvas/gui/styles/DefaultStyle.nas
index e5421ea11..4e524e5e9 100644
--- a/Nasal/canvas/gui/styles/DefaultStyle.nas
+++ b/Nasal/canvas/gui/styles/DefaultStyle.nas
@@ -196,7 +196,7 @@ DefaultStyle.widgets.label = {
   },
   setText: func(model, text)
   {
-    if( text == nil or size(text) == 0 )
+    if ( !isstr(text) or size(text) == 0 )
     {
       model.setHeightForWidthFunc(nil);
       return me._deleteElement('text');
@@ -451,3 +451,274 @@ DefaultStyle.widgets["scroll-area"] = {
     model._scroller_delta[dir] = model._size[dir] - model._scroller_size[dir];
   }
 };
+
+# A horizontal or vertical rule line
+# possibly with a text label embedded
+DefaultStyle.widgets.rule = {
+  new: func(parent, cfg)
+  {
+    me._root = parent.createChild("group", "rule");
+    me._createElement("bg", "image");
+    me._isVertical = cfg.get("isVertical");
+    if (me._isVertical) {
+      me._bg.set("slice", "0 20");
+      me._baseFile = "vrule";
+    } else {
+      me._bg.set("slice", "10 0");
+      me._baseFile = "hrule";
+    }
+  },
+  setSize: func(model, w, h)
+  {
+    if( me['_text'] != nil )
+    {
+      # first 20 px
+      me._bg.setTranslation(2, 0);
+      me._bg.setSize(20, h);
+
+      # TODO handle eliding for translations?
+      me._text.setTranslation(22, 2 + h / 2);
+      var maxW = model._cfg.get("maxTextWidth", -1);
+      if (maxW > 0) {
+         me._text.set("max-width", maxW);
+      }
+
+      var bg2Left = maxW > 0 ? maxW : me._text.maxWidth() + 22;
+      me._bg2.setTranslation(bg2Left, 0);
+      me._bg2.setSize(w - bg2Left, h);
+    } else {
+      me._bg.setSize(w, h);
+    }
+    return me;
+  },
+  setText: func(model, text)
+  {
+    if( text == nil or size(text) == 0 )
+    {
+      # force a resize?
+      me._deleteElement('bg2');
+      return me._deleteElement('text');
+    }
+
+    if (me._isVertical) {
+      logprint(LOG_DEVALERT, "Text label not supported for vertical rules, yet");
+      return;
+    }
+
+    me._createElement("text", "text")
+      .setText(text);
+
+    var width_hint =  me._text.maxWidth() + 40;
+    me._createElement("bg2", "image")
+       .set("slice", "10 0");
+
+    model.setLayoutMinimumSize([40, 14]);
+    # TODO mark as expanding?
+    model.setLayoutSizeHint([width_hint, 24]);
+
+    return me.update(model);
+  },
+  update: func(model)
+  {
+    var file = me._style._dir_widgets ~ "/";
+    file ~= me._baseFile;
+
+    if( !model._enabled )
+      file ~= "-disabled";
+
+    me._bg.set("src", file ~ ".png");
+    if ( me['_bg2'] != nil)
+      me._bg2.set("src", file ~ ".png");
+    
+    # different color if disabled?
+    if( me['_text'] != nil )
+    {
+      var color_name = model._windowFocus() ? "fg_color" : "backdrop_fg_color";
+      me._text.set("fill", me._style.getColor(color_name));
+    }
+  },
+# protected:
+  _createElement: func(name, type)
+  {
+    var mem = '_' ~ name;
+    if( me[ mem ] == nil )
+    {
+      me[ mem ] = me._root.createChild(type, "rule-" ~ name);
+
+      if( type == "text" )
+      {
+         me[ mem ].set("font", "LiberationFonts/LiberationSans-Regular.ttf")
+                  .set("character-size", 14)
+                  .set("alignment", "left-center");
+      }
+    }
+    return me[ mem ];
+  },
+  _deleteElement: func(name)
+  {
+    name = '_' ~ name;
+    if( me[ name ] != nil )
+    {
+      me[ name ].del();
+      me[ name ] = nil;
+    }
+    return me;
+  }
+};
+
+# a frame (sometimes called a group box), with optional label
+# and enable/disable checkbox
+DefaultStyle.widgets.frame = {
+  new: func(parent, cfg)
+  {
+    me._root = parent.createChild("group", "frame-box");
+    me._createElement("bg", "image")
+       .set("slice", "10 10");
+    me.content = me._root.createChild("group", "frame-content");
+
+    # handle label + checkable flag
+  },
+
+  update: func(model)
+  {
+    var file = me._style._dir_widgets ~ "/";
+    file ~= "backdrop-";
+
+    if( !model._enabled )
+      file ~= "-disabled";
+
+    me._bg.set("src", file ~ ".png");
+    
+
+  },
+  # protected:
+  _createElement: func(name, type)
+  {
+    var mem = '_' ~ name;
+    if( me[ mem ] == nil )
+    {
+      me[ mem ] = me._root.createChild(type, "frame-" ~ name);
+
+      if( type == "text" )
+      {
+         me[ mem ].set("font", "LiberationFonts/LiberationSans-Regular.ttf")
+                  .set("character-size", 14)
+                  .set("alignment", "left-center");
+      }
+    }
+    return me[ mem ];
+  },
+  _deleteElement: func(name)
+  {
+    name = '_' ~ name;
+    if( me[ name ] != nil )
+    {
+      me[ name ].del();
+      me[ name ] = nil;
+    }
+    return me;
+  }
+
+};
+
+# a horionztal or vertical slider, for selecting /
+# dragging over a numerical range
+DefaultStyle.widgets.slider = {
+  new: func(parent, cfg)
+  {
+    me._root = parent.createChild("group", "slider");
+    me._createElement("bg", "image")
+       .set("slice", "10 10");
+
+     me._createElement("thumb", "image")
+       .set("slice", "10 10");
+
+      me._ticks = 0;
+      me._ticksPath = nil;
+  },
+
+  setNormValue: func(model, normValue)
+  {
+    var (w, h) = model._size;
+    var availWidthPos = w - h; # pixel range the thumb can move over
+    me._thumb.setTranslation(round(availWidthPos * normValue), 0);
+  },
+
+  update: func(model)
+  {
+  # set background state
+    var file = me._style._dir_widgets ~ "/";
+    file ~= "backdrop-";
+    if( !model._enabled )
+      file ~= "-disabled";
+
+    me._bg.set("src", file ~ ".png");
+    
+  # set thumb state
+    file = me._style._dir_widgets ~ "/";
+    file ~= "button-";  # should we use a seperate thumb?
+    if( !model._enabled )
+      file ~= "-disabled";
+    else if (model._down)
+      file ~= "-down";
+    elsif (model._hover)
+      file ~= "-hovered";
+
+    me._thumb.set("src", file ~ ".png");
+    
+  # set thumb size
+    var (w, h) = model._size;
+    # fixme assumes horizonal for now
+    me._thumb.setSize(h, h);
+
+  # update the position as well, since other stuff
+  # may have changed
+    me.setNormValue(model, model._normValue());
+  },
+
+  updateRanges: func(minValue, maxValue, numTicks = 0)
+  {
+    if (me._ticks != numTicks) {
+      # update tick marks
+      if (numTicks == 0) {
+        me._ticks = 0;
+        me._deleteElement('ticksPath');
+      } else {
+        me._createElement('ticksPath', 'path');
+        me._ticks = numTicks;
+        
+        # set style
+        # loop adding ticks
+
+      }
+    }
+  },
+
+   # protected:
+  _createElement: func(name, type)
+  {
+    var mem = '_' ~ name;
+    if( me[ mem ] == nil )
+    {
+      me[ mem ] = me._root.createChild(type, "slider-" ~ name);
+
+      if( type == "text" )
+      {
+         me[ mem ].set("font", "LiberationFonts/LiberationSans-Regular.ttf")
+                  .set("character-size", 14)
+                  .set("alignment", "left-center");
+      }
+    }
+    return me[ mem ];
+  },
+  _deleteElement: func(name)
+  {
+    name = '_' ~ name;
+    if( me[ name ] != nil )
+    {
+      me[ name ].del();
+      me[ name ] = nil;
+    }
+    return me;
+  }
+}
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diff --git a/Nasal/canvas/gui/widgets/Frame.nas b/Nasal/canvas/gui/widgets/Frame.nas
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..2e746acf6
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Nasal/canvas/gui/widgets/Frame.nas
@@ -0,0 +1,68 @@
+# Frame.nas: container with a visual frame around it,
+# and optional checkbox / label (usuallt at the top / left)
+# to enable / disable it
+
+# Copyright (C) 2022 James Turner
+# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-or-later
+
+
+gui.widgets.Frame = {
+  new: func(parent, style, cfg)
+  {
+    var m = gui.Widget.new(gui.widgets.Frame);
+    m._cfg = Config.new(cfg);
+    # m._focus_policy = m.NoFocus; maybe?
+    m._setView( style.createWidget(parent, "frame", m._cfg) );
+    m._checkable = cfg.get("checkable", 0);
+    m._label = cfg.get("label");
+    m._layout = nil;
+
+    m.setLayoutSizeHint([200, 200]);
+    m.setLayoutMaximumSize([m._MAX_SIZE, m._MAX_SIZE]);
+    return m;
+  },
+  getContent: func()
+  {
+    return me._view.content;
+  },
+  setLabel: func(text)
+  {
+    me._label = text;
+    me._view.update(me);
+    return me;
+  },
+  setCheckable: func(e)
+  {
+    me._checkable = e;
+    me._view.update(me);
+    return me;
+  },
+  setLayout: func(;)
+  {
+    me._layout = l;
+    l.setParent(me);
+    return me.update();
+  },
+  setSize: func
+  {
+    if( size(arg) == 1 )
+      var arg = arg[0];
+    var (x,y) = arg;
+    me._size = [x,y];
+    return me.update();
+  },
+    # Needs to be called when the size of the content changes.
+  update: func()
+  {
+   # var offset = [ me._content_offset[0] - me._content_pos[0],
+    #               me._content_offset[1] - me._content_pos[1] ];
+ 
+    me.getContent().setTranslation(10, 10);
+    me.getContent().setSize([me._size[0] - 20, me._size[1] - 20]);
+
+    me._view.update(me);
+    me.getContent().update();
+
+    return me;
+  },
+};
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diff --git a/Nasal/canvas/gui/widgets/RadioButton.nas b/Nasal/canvas/gui/widgets/RadioButton.nas
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..fec9687fa
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Nasal/canvas/gui/widgets/RadioButton.nas
@@ -0,0 +1,95 @@
+# RadioButton.nas : radio button, and group helper
+# to manage updating checked state conherently
+# Copyright (C) 2022 James Turner
+# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-or-later
+
+gui.widgets.RadioButton = {
+  new: func(parent, style, cfg)
+  {
+    cfg["type"] = "radio";
+    var m = gui.widgets.Button.new(parent, style, cfg);
+    m._checkable = 1;
+
+    append(m.parents, gui.widgets.RadioButton);
+
+    if (contains(pr, "radioGroup") {
+      pr.radioGroup.addRadio(m);
+    }
+
+    return m;
+  },
+
+  del: func()
+  {
+    var pr = getParent();
+    if (contains(pr, "radioGroup") {
+      pr.radioGroup.removeRadio(me);
+    }
+  },
+
+  setCheckable: nil,
+  setChecked: func(checked = 1)
+  {
+    # call our base version
+    me.parents[0].setChecked(checked);
+    if (checked) {
+      me._setRadioGroupSiblingsUnchecked();
+    }
+  },
+# protected members
+  _setRadioGroupSiblingsUnchecked: func
+  {
+    var pr = getParent();
+    if (contains(pr, "radioGroup") {
+      pr.radioGroup._updateChecked(me);
+    } else {
+      # todo, remove me, it's okay to manually manage RadioButtons
+      logprint(LOG_DEV, "No radio group defined");
+    }
+  }
+};
+
+# auto manage radio-button checked state
+gui.widgets.RadioGroup = {
+  new: func(nm = 'unnamed')
+  {
+    var m = {parents:[gui.widgets.RadioGroup, name:nm, radios:[]]};
+    return m;
+  },
+
+  addRadio: func(r)
+  {
+    if (r.parents[0] != RadioButton) {
+      logprint(LOG_ALERT, "Adding non-RadioButton to RadioGroup")
+      return;
+    }
+    append(me.radios, r);
+  },
+
+  removeRadio: func(r)
+  {
+    if (r.parents[0] != RadioButton) {
+      logprint(LOG_ALERT, "Remove non-RadioButton from RadioGroup")
+      return;
+    }
+
+    # should we update some other item to be checked?
+    me.radios.remove(r);
+  },
+
+  setEnabled: func(doEnable = 1)
+  {
+    foreach (var r : me.radios) {
+      r.setEnabled(doEnable);
+    }
+  },
+
+# protected methods
+  # update check state of all radios in the group
+  _updateChecked: func(active)
+  {
+    foreach (var r : me.radios) {
+      r.setChecked(r == active);
+    }
+  }
+};
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diff --git a/Nasal/canvas/gui/widgets/Rule.nas b/Nasal/canvas/gui/widgets/Rule.nas
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..a1dfee393
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Nasal/canvas/gui/widgets/Rule.nas
@@ -0,0 +1,47 @@
+# Rule.nas : horizontal or vertical dividing line,
+# optionally with a text label, eg to name a section
+# Copyright (C) 2022 James Turner
+# SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-or-later
+
+
+gui.widgets.HorizontalRule = {
+  new: func(parent, style, cfg)
+  {
+    var m = gui.Widget.new(gui.widgets.HorizontalRule);
+    m._cfg = Config.new(cfg);
+    m._focus_policy = m.NoFocus;
+    m._setView( style.createWidget(parent, "rule", m._cfg) );
+
+# should ask Style the rule height, not hard-code 1px
+    m.setLayoutMinimumSize([16, 1]);
+    m.setLayoutSizeHint([m._MAX_SIZE, 1]); # expand to fill
+    m.setLayoutMaximumSize([m._MAX_SIZE, 1]);
+    return m;
+  },
+  setText: func(text)
+  {
+    me._view.setText(me, text);
+    return me;
+  }
+};
+
+gui.widgets.VerticalRule = {
+  new: func(parent, style, cfg)
+  {
+    var m = gui.Widget.new(gui.widgets.VerticalRule);
+    m._cfg = Config.new(cfg);
+    m._focus_policy = m.NoFocus;
+    m._setView( style.createWidget(parent, "rule", m._cfg) );
+
+# should ask Style the rule height, not hard-code 1px
+    m.setLayoutMinimumSize([1, 16]);
+    m.setLayoutSizeHint([1, m._MAX_SIZE]); # expand to fill
+    m.setLayoutMaximumSize([1, m._MAX_SIZE]);
+    return m;
+  },
+  setText: func(text)
+  {
+    me._view.setText(me, text);
+    return me;
+  }
+};
diff --git a/Nasal/canvas/gui/widgets/Slider.nas b/Nasal/canvas/gui/widgets/Slider.nas
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..050d69aef
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Nasal/canvas/gui/widgets/Slider.nas
@@ -0,0 +1,54 @@
+gui.widgets.Slider = {
+  new: func(parent, style, cfg)
+  {
+    var cfg = Config.new(cfg);
+    var m = gui.Widget.new(gui.widgets.Slider);
+    m._focus_policy = m.StrongFocus;
+    m._down = 0;
+    m._minValue = 0;
+    m._maxValue = 100;
+    m._value = 50;
+    m._pageStep = 10;
+    m._numTicks = 10;
+
+
+    if( style != nil ) {
+      m._setView( style.createWidget(parent, cfg.get("type", "slider"), cfg) );
+      m._view.updateRanges(m._minValue, m._maxValue, m._numTicks);
+    }
+
+    return m;
+  },
+
+  setValue: func(val)
+  {
+    if( me._view != nil ) {
+      me._view.setNormValue(me._normValue());
+    }
+    return me;
+  },
+
+  
+
+# protected:
+  _setView: func(view)
+  {
+    call(gui.Widget._setView, [view], me);
+
+    # var el = view._root;
+    # el.addEventListener("mousedown", func if( me._enabled ) me.setDown(1));
+    # el.addEventListener("mouseup",   func if( me._enabled ) me.setDown(0));
+    # el.addEventListener("click",     func if( me._enabled ) me.toggle());
+
+    # el.addEventListener("mouseleave",func me.setDown(0));
+    # el.addEventListener("drag", func(e) e.stopPropagation());
+  },
+
+  # return value as its normalised equivalent
+  _normValue: func
+  {
+    var range = me._maxValue - me._minValue;
+    var v = math.clamp(me._value, me._minValue, me._maxValue) - me._minValue;
+    return v / range;
+  }
+};
diff --git a/gui/styles/AmbianceClassic/widgets/hrule.png b/gui/styles/AmbianceClassic/widgets/hrule.png
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..c9090ae76
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