diff --git a/Nasal/local_weather/compat_layer.nas b/Nasal/local_weather/compat_layer.nas
index 02382c673..3ea3a4b32 100644
--- a/Nasal/local_weather/compat_layer.nas
+++ b/Nasal/local_weather/compat_layer.nas
@@ -172,6 +172,12 @@ setprop("/sim/rendering/clouds3d-wrap",0);
 # Basic Weather rain altitude limit off 
 props.globals.getNode("/environment/params/use-external-precipitation-level").setBoolValue("true");
 
+
+# rain and snow off for clean startup
+
+compat_layer.setRain(0.0);
+compat_layer.setSnow(0.0);
+compat_layer.setLight(1.0);
 }
 
 
diff --git a/Nasal/local_weather/local_weather.nas b/Nasal/local_weather/local_weather.nas
index 5134ca17c..c6203c9cd 100644
--- a/Nasal/local_weather/local_weather.nas
+++ b/Nasal/local_weather/local_weather.nas
@@ -1663,6 +1663,12 @@ setprop(lw~"clouds/placement-index",0);
 setprop(lw~"clouds/model-placement-index",0);
 setprop(lw~"effect-volumes/effect-placement-index",0);
 setprop(lw~"effect-volumes/number",0);
+setprop(lw~"effect-volumes/number-active-rain",0);
+setprop(lw~"effect-volumes/number-active-snow",0);
+setprop(lw~"effect-volumes/number-active-vis",0);
+setprop(lw~"effect-volumes/number-active-turb",0);
+setprop(lw~"effect-volumes/number-active-lift",0);
+setprop(lw~"effect-volumes/number-active-sat",0);
 setprop(lw~"tiles/tile-counter",0);